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Jayco Greyhawk E450 AC Not Cooling: Intermittent Compressor Clutch Diagnosis

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Jayco Greyhawk E450 AC compressor cycling on and off intermittently

I'm dealing with a frustrating intermittent AC issue on my Jayco Greyhawk built on the Ford E450 chassis. The problem is specifically with the cooling function - the AC will blow ice cold air for about a minute or two, then the cooling suddenly stops even though the fan continues to run perfectly at all speed settings. After a few minutes, the cooling kicks back in again, then cycles off once more. This pattern repeats constantly while driving.

I've noticed that the fan motor and all the controls are working flawlessly - I can adjust from low to high speed without any issues. It's purely the cooling/compressor function that's acting up. The system isn't completely dead, which makes this even more puzzling. I suspect this might be related to the compressor clutch since the cooling cuts out so abruptly while the fan keeps running normally.

What should I be checking to diagnose this intermittent compressor clutch behavior? I want to understand the most likely causes and the proper diagnostic steps before taking it to a shop, since intermittent problems can be tricky for mechanics to reproduce and fix.

Dear Dave M.,

Quick Answer

Intermittent Greyhawk AC with working fan indicates compressor clutch cycling. Check refrigerant level, clutch engagement, and voltage at the clutch coil. Low refrigerant is the most common cause.

Tools & Parts Needed

AC gauge set multimeter R134a refrigerant UV dye kit

Short Answer

Your Jayco Greyhawk E450's intermittent chassis AC cooling is most likely caused by a voltage drop issue, as you suspected. This commonly occurs when the alternator isn't providing sufficient voltage under load, or there's resistance in the power supply circuit to the AC compressor clutch. The compressor clutch disengages when voltage drops below approximately 10.5-11.0 volts, causing the cooling to stop while the fan continues running normally.

Understanding the Problem

The E450 chassis AC system operates differently than your coach AC units. While driving, the chassis AC compressor is powered by the engine's electrical system through the alternator. When voltage drops due to high electrical demand or charging system issues, the AC compressor clutch will automatically disengage as a protective measure. This explains why your fan controls work perfectly - they require much less power than the compressor clutch.

Common causes include a weak alternator that can't maintain proper voltage under the combined load of engine operation, battery charging, and AC compressor operation. Belt slippage on the alternator can also cause intermittent voltage drops. Additionally, corroded connections at the alternator, battery terminals, or in the AC clutch circuit can create resistance that causes voltage drops specifically when the compressor tries to engage.

The fact that a mechanic couldn't initially find the problem is typical - these voltage issues often occur only under specific load conditions that might not be replicated during stationary testing. The problem likely manifests most when the engine is at idle or low RPM with multiple electrical systems operating simultaneously.

What You'll Need

For diagnostic testing, you'll need a digital multimeter capable of reading DC voltage, preferably one with min/max recording capability to catch voltage drops. A basic automotive multimeter from Harbor Freight (around $15-25) will work fine. You'll also need basic hand tools including wrenches for battery terminal cleaning and potentially belt tension adjustment.

If repairs are needed, common parts include battery terminal cleaning supplies, dielectric grease for connections, and potentially a new alternator belt if stretching is found. More serious issues might require alternator replacement (typically $150-300 for a remanufactured unit) or AC compressor clutch replacement ($200-400 including labor).

Safety equipment is essential when working around the engine bay - heat-resistant gloves and safety glasses are minimum requirements. A non-contact voltage tester can help identify live circuits safely.

How to Fix It

Start by testing the charging system voltage at the battery terminals with the engine running and AC on. With the engine at idle and AC compressor engaged, voltage should remain above 12.0 volts (normal alternator output is 13.5-14.5V). If it drops below 12 volts when the compressor kicks in, rev the engine to 1000-1200 RPM - if voltage improves significantly, your alternator may be weak or the belt may be slipping.

Check all battery connections and the alternator output wire for corrosion or looseness. Clean battery terminals with a wire brush and apply dielectric grease. Inspect the alternator belt for proper tension - if equipped with a spring-loaded tensioner, check for proper tensioner position; if manually adjustable, belt should deflect about 1/4 inch when pressed firmly at the center of the longest span. A loose or glazed belt can cause charging issues that manifest as AC problems.

WARNING: Keep hands and tools away from moving parts. Test the AC compressor clutch engagement by having someone turn the AC on while you observe the compressor pulley. The outer clutch should engage with an audible click and the center hub should start spinning with the pulley. If it engages then disengages repeatedly, monitor voltage at the clutch connector during this cycling - voltage drops during disengagement confirm your electrical supply issue.

For the Ford E450 chassis, also check the AC clutch relay in the engine compartment fuse box. Swap it with an identical relay (like the horn relay) to see if the problem changes. A failing relay can cause intermittent operation even with proper voltage supply.

Leave It to the Experts

If voltage testing shows consistent proper voltage but the AC still cycles intermittently, the issue may be internal to the compressor clutch or AC system pressures. These require specialized AC manifold gauges and recovery equipment that most DIYers don't have access to. AC system work also requires EPA certification for refrigerant handling.

Complex electrical diagnosis involving the vehicle's wiring harness or PCM-controlled AC operation should be handled by a qualified automotive electrician. Some E450 chassis have computer-controlled AC systems that require scan tool diagnosis beyond basic multimeter testing. If your testing reveals alternator replacement is needed, this is typically a 2-3 hour job that many RV owners prefer to have professionally done.

When seeking professional help, specifically mention the voltage drop symptoms you've identified and ask them to load-test the charging system with the AC operating. Many shops will perform a quick charging system test without the AC load, missing the specific condition causing your problem. Request they verify voltage at the AC clutch connector under actual driving load conditions.

This article is for informational purposes only and may contain errors. Always verify technical specifications and safety procedures with your equipment manufacturer's documentation or consult a qualified professional before performing repairs. See our terms.
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